Topic: rule for running out of baseline?


coach_matt    -- 05-19-2010 @ 2:30 PM
  When exactly can a player be called out for leaving the baseline?  I have always thought if avoiding a tag.  I have been told to avoid offense obstruction and running the bases wildly.  Any help is needed.


Aaron_Umpire    -- 05-19-2010 @ 2:34 PM
  I am not the smartest umpire in the world, but first off, the offense does not commit Obstruction, its Interference, and I have been told getting that wording wrong can have coaches protest with the wrong wording.

Running the bases wildly?  

IF a runner leaves the baseline to avoid a tag, he is out, ball is still alive.  The batter/runner is also out when he leaves the dirt circle on a dropped third stirke.

I had this happen yesterday, dropped third strike, 10 year olds, kid went into the field of play on the fair side, in the grass to avoid a tag. Kind of funny.


critter171    -- 05-19-2010 @ 3:16 PM
  its a three feet base line that the player makes to the next base. the only time has the right to go out of baseline is to avoid interference this a judgment call.

So much for this location the attitude i am getting i am done with wish you guys the best for you answers i am just not please when i ask for help i get sh*t.


critter171    -- 05-19-2010 @ 3:18 PM
  9-10 years old the third strike job is the batter is automatically out

11-12 (70 feet base) is alive ball and runner has to be retire at the base on drop third strike

13 and older it same as above.


MrUmpire    -- 05-19-2010 @ 3:42 PM
  Offense interferes, defense obstructs.

Runner must avoid interference so they are allowed to go beyond the 3 foot mark.  That only comes into play when a tag is being applied.  When a tag is being applied, then the runner is allowed 3 feet on either side of the direct line between the runner and the base they are going toward.

As for running wildly, no rule supports an out call for this.  Not in any rule set I am aware of.  The runner can go to the outfield fence and back while no tag attempt is being made.

Don't settle for a "That's just the way it is answer". Question everything until you get an irrefutable or understandable answer.


MrUmpire    -- 05-19-2010 @ 3:52 PM
 
quote:

9-10 years old the third strike job is the batter is automatically out


Not in all leagues.  It depends on the rule set and park rules.

Don't settle for a "That's just the way it is answer". Question everything until you get an irrefutable or understandable answer.


critter171    -- 05-19-2010 @ 5:40 PM
  MrUmpire- that wouldn't make sense to me but that is why i don't do other leauges there only two leauges around here.

LL and Cal ripken/babe ruth there is other things but its slow pitch softball etc...

these kids are learning at this age and throwing the ball around its not going to get a quick out.


Aaron_Umpire    -- 05-19-2010 @ 5:53 PM
  Yea Critter, where I umpire 10u is the starting age for drop third strike and infield fly.


critter171    -- 05-20-2010 @ 8:18 AM
  infield fly is common in this age anyways. the only time i could not see it being called is 8 and under

now for softball down here 10u can run to first base on drop third strike.

what leauge are you doing anyway?


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